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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 09 Oct 2009, 22:17 
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West Phoenix- Yes, you are reading it correctly. Class III Misd, 30-days jail and up to $500 fine.

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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 15 Oct 2009, 21:08 
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Ok, I would still like thoughts on places that have lunch counters that sell beer/wine and have a sign at the door.

It's a grocery store. They don't have the sign next to the license at their customer service counter but they do have a sign at the license where they serve beer/wine. So I figure the front door sign which specifies the ARS statue is for the beer/wine area. If I was spotted in the regular store and asked to leave I would follow the normal rules and just leave. Since I am not entering the beer/wine consumption areas I would not be subject to the $500 fine and jail time.


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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 16 Oct 2009, 10:27 
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It's not properly posted anyway. All they could do is ask you to leave.


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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 03 Nov 2009, 18:29 
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It always seems to me that there is a loop hole either way. Nothing is clear cut and they make you need a full time lawyer and even then it can be interpretted either way.


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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 29 Nov 2009, 10:46 
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If you know how to REALLY carry concealed the only way you will get made if someone pats you down. So conceal and keep mouth shut. That way short of getting pat down no one will ever know.

I'd never tell you to break t he law but I will tell you this. The Grave Yard is filled with people who that last second wised that they broke a stupid law. Their our many who had to carry on who wish that one time he would have broke the law

I for one will do what I feel is best for my well being and what I feel is best for the ones i'd leave behind.


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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 04 Jan 2010, 13:00 
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I'm still a tad confused. To make this clear for me, let see if I get it straight.

You can carry in an alcohol serving business with a few exceptions:
1. You were consuming alcohol yourself.
2. They have a "no guns" sign posted.
3. An associate of that business asks you to leave.

This law is currently in effect? I hope so. I hate having to leave my gun in the car every time I go out to dinner. I don't drink and I always thought it was retarded I could not carry if I was not drinking. It's like they were saying: Because the other guy is drunk, you don't have the right to defend yourself. I am glad this has been changed.

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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
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If you don't drink, and they don't have the no guns sign or are not asked to leave, you can CCW w/permit in a restaurant that serves alcohol.

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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
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I just had dinner at the Chick-Fil-A at Tatum and Cactus. They have a sign on the door now prohibiting firearms. It's the official signage for ARS 4-229. They are citing an incorrect statute since they do not serve alcohol.


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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
New postPosted: 15 Feb 2010, 18:43 
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All they'd have to do is change the ARS to 13-1502.

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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
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TimW wrote:
All they'd have to do is change the ARS to 13-1502.


They could quote a bible verse and it doesn't matter since no matter what, 13-1502 DOES apply. (btw, thanks for posting that one, I've been looking for specific wording on that one for a while!)


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 Post subject: Re: CCW in restauarants law
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TimW wrote:
All they'd have to do is change the ARS to 13-1502.

Everyone knows ARS 13-1502 is very respected
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