There are dozens of companies selling rifled barrel shotguns.
And thousands of retailers selling.. If ATF is letting it go so will I.
If they decide to prosecute there will be 15 million rifled barrel
shotgun guys as well as a bunch of state game folks in shotgun only
states getting congress to change the wording,
BY THEM LETTING IT GO THEY ARE IMPLYING AN EXEMPTION FOR SPORTING,
which they I guess have a right to do under the section where they give
exemptions like they have for rifle cases.They have the right to exempt
whatever they want ,over 50 cal, according to the wording.
And maybe they figured they had the excuse or leeway to grandfather rifled
barrels in, as they are not a new invention occurring since GCA was
passed. but been around and used in paradox and other shotgun calibers
for 110 years!!!! I think there are others that seem to think
that this is the case, IE, grandfathered excuse..
And on the gun and mfg side of things, how do
we know that they haven't given NEF, Rossi, Mossberg,
REM, WIN, Benelli, etc,sporting exemptions to mfg/sell,
for the rifled barrel guns. These mfgs do have lawyers.
You can't call them, ATF, and find out, as they won't
tell you about any sporting use cartridges, guns,etc, or
talk about them, except your own. I've tried.
They don't even have a public list.
As for the case it is still 12ga no matter how made or material.
I have one over 5 inches long, factory one. I'd like to start a petition drive if we get
a regime change to have congress correct wording as well as get the process
out in the open with a list;we will know in year or so.
Some more gun info. Here is picture of a nice, large diameter
action a fellow built, for big bore use.Nice beautiful machine
work, He put a 700 short case in it. He called it 700WTF.
It would do 12ga, 16ga, 20 ga, etc.
Second is the 8 bore we just made on falling block. It is
chambered for now for the 8ga 3.3" heavy duty plastic
case that we use. That we get by swaging the belt down on
the new 8ga kiln cases, that BPI and Precision Reloading sell.
The chamber fires old original 8ga cases also, but a regular
kiln load not swaged, won't chamber, a safety factor for guns not
as strong as the falling block. Guys in the UK gave me the idea
of swaging down the belt on kiln cases, as they did it
to get cases for their old 8ga doubles.
Third is the Savage 210 we put a 700 cal barrel in and made it
a 700NE. The 700 NE has same rim diameter as 12ga, but a
smaller base, ,020" smaller, Handles the loads fine, as its
factory loads are the same as our top loads in the Savage
with RMC 3.5 brass cases. Before that I had my 700H 3.25"
belted case in it. Worked great.
4th- we made a 28ga FH, a brass case 3.25" long that
RMC made for us. The chamber still fits and fires shorter
28ga plastic cases.Here is one in picture with a 505 Gibbs to show
the size and potential. I put first one in a Mossy 695 bolt gun
with a heavy rifled barrel. The 28ga rifled is same groove
diameter as the 550 magnum, so same diameter slugs work.
5th are couple of our 12ga FH cases guys shortened for
short actions, less recoil. Left are 2 inches,right 2.25"
and some have shortened them to 2.5" for use in
guns that will feed loaded 3" plastic. The 3" loaded plastic
and 2.5" brass with slug are about 2.7" overall..
If you folks have questions we'll help if we can.Ed