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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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Doesn't everyone back off 100 yards from their house and shoot it with .22s to see if they'll penetrate the walls?

I know I'm thinking of doing it after seeing the show. [smilie=icon_rolleyes.gif]

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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I can't watch these anymore, they just shame me as to how unprepared I am. Near as I can tell, we live in the worst place on earth for a SHTF situation. No water (or rain) to drink, no place to fish or hunt, nothing can be grown, relatively few escape routes, deadly temperatures, and little sense of community. All we have in greater Phoenix are 5 million testy people, in a concrete oven, with lots of guns and ammo.

Sadly, I don't have enough resources, to prepare for not having enough resources, (while living in the cul de sac of Quislings). Could we please postpone the apocalypse until I retire?


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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I can't watch these anymore, they just shame me as to how unprepared I am. Near as I can tell, we live in the worst place on earth for a SHTF situation. No water (or rain) to drink, no place to fish or hunt, nothing can be grown, relatively few escape routes, deadly temperatures, and little sense of community. All we have in greater Phoenix are 5 million testy people, in a concrete oven, with lots of guns and ammo.

Sadly, I don't have enough resources, to prepare for not having enough resources, (while living in the cul de sac of Quislings). Could we please postpone the apocalypse until I retire?


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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I can't watch these anymore, they just shame me as to how unprepared I am. Near as I can tell, we live in the worst place on earth for a SHTF situation. No water (or rain) to drink, no place to fish or hunt, nothing can be grown, relatively few escape routes, deadly temperatures, and little sense of community. All we have in greater Phoenix are 5 million testy people, in a concrete oven, with lots of guns and ammo.

Sadly, I don't have enough resources, to prepare for not having enough resources, (while living in the cul de sac of Quislings). Could we please postpone the apocalypse until I retire?


You make a lot of good points...f'ing depressing, but good! [smilie=icon_cry.gif]

Guess I'd make sure and at least save enough ammo to do yourself and loved ones if the SHTF. Better than being eaten a little at a time by atfsux. [smilie=icon_eek.gif]

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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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Doesn't everyone back off 100 yards from their house and shoot it with .22s to see if they'll penetrate the walls?

I know I'm thinking of doing it after seeing the show. [smilie=icon_rolleyes.gif]

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Oh sure the steel walls stopped the powerful .22 long rifle but how would it stand up to................22 magnum?.........or .17HMR? They didn't consider that did they?


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I can't watch these anymore, they just shame me as to how unprepared I am. Near as I can tell, we live in the worst place on earth for a SHTF situation. No water (or rain) to drink, no place to fish or hunt, nothing can be grown, relatively few escape routes, deadly temperatures, and little sense of community. All we have in greater Phoenix are 5 million testy people, in a concrete oven, with lots of guns and ammo.

Sadly, I don't have enough resources, to prepare for not having enough resources, (while living in the cul de sac of Quislings). Could we please postpone the apocalypse until I retire?


Being prepared is more of a mind set thing to me then having deep pockets. I know I can't stock up and food, water, ect the way I want to. I try and fill in the gaps with knowledge on how to take care of me and my family. Just hypothetically, if you droped someone from our armed forces and a school teacher or lawyer, into ...I don't know, the twilight zone, and gave the school teacher or lawyer aIn unfair advantage by giving them food and water, I would still bet on our unknown armed forces person. Not because there military but because they have the knowledge to survive. I have a simple bug out bag, which really isn't a bug out bag it's a use for any emergency bag, some supplies in our car. I like to think I have a head on my shoulders and that's what will get me through, or I'm an idiot and should be stock piling food and doing a reality show proving to my nabors IM CRAZY! Who knows?


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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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j.digriz wrote:
I can't watch these anymore, they just shame me as to how unprepared I am. Near as I can tell, we live in the worst place on earth for a SHTF situation. No water (or rain) to drink, no place to fish or hunt, nothing can be grown, relatively few escape routes, deadly temperatures, and little sense of community. All we have in greater Phoenix are 5 million testy people, in a concrete oven, with lots of guns and ammo.

Sadly, I don't have enough resources, to prepare for not having enough resources, (while living in the cul de sac of Quislings). Could we please postpone the apocalypse until I retire?


Sadly I was thinking the same thing. However I do not need a whole basement of food, water, ammo, and guns. Just a bug out bag, a good plan, and a few good guns with ammo. Worst case scenario I'll just have to friend someone on the show! LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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Flash wrote:
Doesn't everyone back off 100 yards from their house and shoot it with .22s to see if they'll penetrate the walls?

I know I'm thinking of doing it after seeing the show. [smilie=icon_rolleyes.gif]

Flash

It scares me a little that he and I think alike. I too have considered building a castle out of shipping containers out in the desert. Plus I've done plenty of research on methane bio-digesters.


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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I'm enjoying it. The 0.1 acre 'urban garden' was great! Scottsdale's own Tim (ol' 9.5 fingers) Ralston was an interesting insight, how do you do that? [smilie=icon_eek.gif]

Hmm, must've broke rule #2...

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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I liked the show. Some interesting idea's being shared. But I didn't understand the mindset of "why" or "what" these folks were preparing for. My own train of thought is to be prepared for anything and not just one event.

The critique's were a nice touch as well...even though the anti gun family refused to listen. They will have a nice stash for some thug to take because they have no means of protecting it or themselves. Btw, that fat bastard will destroy himself long before anything else will! [smilie=icon_lol.gif]

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It scares me a little that he and I think alike. I too have considered building a castle out of shipping containers out in the desert. Plus I've done plenty of research on methane bio-digesters.


There's one I see every once in a while when I'm doing jobs at Area 51 (The Nevada Test Site to those who work there). It's about halfway between Area 51 and Las Vegas, out in the middle of nowhere, and located perhaps 1/2 mile off the highway.

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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I can't watch these anymore, they just shame me as to how unprepared I am. Near as I can tell, we live in the worst place on earth for a SHTF situation. No water (or rain) to drink, no place to fish or hunt, nothing can be grown, relatively few escape routes, deadly temperatures, and little sense of community. All we have in greater Phoenix are 5 million testy people, in a concrete oven, with lots of guns and ammo.

Sadly, I don't have enough resources, to prepare for not having enough resources, (while living in the cul de sac of Quislings). Could we please postpone the apocalypse until I retire?


Thinking the exact same thing... As I was watching last night I was remembering the I-17 north on the weekends and the I-10 during rush hour and the long lines of stopped traffic during "good times" let alone the whole city trying to get away. The "bug out" drills make a lot of sense in other areas but here in the valley it will really be difficult to get out of town :(


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There are many aspects of the information on that program that are not clear. For example, take the fellow who apparently lives in the Valley and wants to prepare for an EM pulse (the guy who nearly removed his thumb). He has a Jeep with a trailer to move his "stuff" out to his bug out location. If an EM pulse were to occur, his Jeep isn't going to operate. How does he get his trailer full of equipment and supplies to his bug out location?

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There are many aspects of the information on that program that are not clear. For example, take the fellow who apparently lives in the Valley and wants to prepare for an EM pulse (the guy who nearly removed his thumb). He has a Jeep with a trailer to move his "stuff" out to his bug out location. If an EM pulse were to occur, his Jeep isn't going to operate. How does he get his trailer full of equipment and supplies to his bug out location?



Older ignition systems (early 70's and older) are less susceptible to EMP, so it is possible to have a running vehicle in the aftermath of an EMP,...but that Jeep ain't it.

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 Post subject: Re: Nat Geo's new show, 'Doomsday Preppers' airs 02-07-12
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I still like how the AZ represenative blew his finger off. damn it :(

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