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 Post subject: 7.65/54 ?? What the heck is this ammo?
New postPosted: 09 Jul 2009, 09:12 
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Over the weekend visiting my parents up north...a neighbor showed me he had brass military surplus (about 300 rds..of
765.54 marked ammo.. looked allot like 30/06 or 8mm stuff. Anyone know this type of ammo?


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 Post subject: Re: 7.65/54 ?? What the heck is this ammo?
New postPosted: 09 Jul 2009, 09:19 
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This what I get for not reading carefully...

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 Post subject: Re: 7.65/54 ?? What the heck is this ammo?
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Most of the stuff is referred to as a 7.65 Argentine Mauser. 1891 Model Mauser
http://www.rawles.to/Mauser_FAQ.html

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 Post subject: Re: 7.65/54 ?? What the heck is this ammo?
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AtomicDog wrote:
Yes. It's from mother Russia, and a very old design, yet still used today. Look up Mosin Nagant on google to find the most common rifle that uses that round.


That would be 7.62x54, not 7.65.

IIRC, 7.65/54 is an Argentine Mauser round...

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Oops. You're right! My mistake.

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 Post subject: Re: 7.65/54 ?? What the heck is this ammo?
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This will now confuse you:

Believe it or not there really was a 7.65x54R way back..at least according to this listing as a musket.
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin ... emID=29950

But the 7.65x54R is not the same thing. Argie Mauser ammo IS NOT rimmed. Not sure why the Russians still use a rimmed large calibers in 7.62x54R today.

The 7.65x53 Mauser cartridge was adopted by the Belgian military around 1889, so the 7.65x53 is commonly known as the 7.65 Belgian Mauser. Shortly thereafter the 7.65x53 was adopted by several South American countries, including Argentina, so it is also known as the 7.65mm Argentine, particularly in North America. They are supposed to be the same cartridge, since they measure between 53 mm and 54 mm...some makers rounded the designation up to 54 !

Boxes are marked usually
7.65 ARG
7.65 x 54
7.65 x 53 Belgian

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 Post subject: Re: 7.65/54 ?? What the heck is this ammo?
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Thank you Jrleen ! I had to look at it about 4 times, as i kept telling myself it "Must be 7.62"?? But it wasnt!
7.65/54 ARG !! Thats why i asked. I know im an idiot 90% of the time on this forum...just not all the time! LOL


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